Be careful, sometimes you get what you pay for.

I wanted to post this video that I edited this morning, here on the blog. In the video we show two of the vehicles here in the shop and the quality of the work do to them in the past. One of the biggest set backs when restoring an automobile can be the previous work that was performed on the cars by other businesses, or other people. In both cases the automobiles in this video were manufactured in the 1960’s. They are both European, and to my knowledge they are both from Kansas.  But they both lived very different lives outside of that.

The first is a 1968 Porsche 911 that was never taken care the way a Porsche should have been . This Porsche started life Slate gray in color. Then for unknown reasons I would guess either rust problems or a front end collision. The car underwent the first of three complete color changes. With no proper repair to the body, only cosmetic work to make the appearance of the car look fresh and new. This is what I like to call shining up a turd.

The second car, a 1963 MGB roadster led a very different life. It has been lovingly cared for by its owner since 1982. In fact although I would say this is the first time the car is being restored. The car does show sign of having sheet metal work done before. As you will see in the video. As you watch this video ask your self would you be happy with the performed on either of these car. Please leave us a comment and please be careful when having work done on your classic or antique auto. Sometime you get what you pay for.

                           

January 5th 1968 Porsche 911 update.

Having time to perform the restoration work, which is how I how pay the bills, monitor employees, shoot videos and edit videos is not very easy. Editing the videos is probably the most time consuming part of the process. Also finding the time to sit down at the computer and compose meaningful content for this blog can be difficult. So allow me to apologize for my lack of updates. When I first started the blog I was imagining that I would be posting twice a week or updating the progress on each of the vehicle here in the shop on a weekly basis.  Maybe I will do better in 2015. 
 
This video I shot on January 5th. The actual purpose of the video is to give myself a game plan of how to attack this project. Last week we purchased a second car to use for parts, and as I sit here typing I am waiting for the car hauler to arrived here at the shop from a 20 hour drive from North Carolina. Check back because I am going to have more videos for the Porsche to shoot this week

What’s under the shiny paint part 3. The Porsche returns from the blaster.

Specializing in classic and antique automobile restoration takes complete passion, and it is often heartbreaking when you get a vehicle from the media blaster and your are finally able to physically see the actual condition of the automobile you are working on. In the case of this Porsche, I find the lack of quality performed by previous businesses to be absolute B.S. But it is not just the one or two businesses that have worked on this specific car in the past. It is the collision repair industry, and the techniques employed by the collision repair industry that are to blame.

Below are the photo’s of our 1968 Porsche project needless to say, it is going to be alot more work than was originally anticipated.

As you can see the 1968 Porsche looks nothing like the car we took delivery of on Wednesday June 18th. So often, many cars come back from the media blaster requiring a great deal more labor to restore them back to original than was originally expected.

Porsche 911 rocker panel removal

The disassembly phase of this project is taking several times longer than I could have ever thought. Every step of the way I am just trying to uncover  as much of the damaged metal, so that I know exactly what I am going to get back from the sand blaster. I had a very similar experience when working on the drivers side of the car , so I knew exactly what to look for.

From what I can tell this car left the factory slate grey. It has been in an accident at some point in its life. But I believe that one of the previous owners of the car had the color change to a light blue color, first. The car was already starting to rust to as we can see in this video. Then the car was in an accident, and the shop that perform all the work did what they had to just to make the car look pretty on the outside. While never really repairing the car.

Thirty years later (ish) this 1968 Porsche 911is going to be restored back to factory original condition. I will take most of my time for the next year, but it will be worth it. Over the course of the past couple years. The value on these short wheel base cars has more than doubled since December of 2010, and it has not leveled off yet. I am anxious to see what the value of this car one year from now. The current value is around $124k. Can we hit $150k?

Whats under the shiny paint part 2

I have been putting in a lot of hours on the Porsche 911 tearing this car down to a bare shell. Making sure to take a lot of picture before during and after the disassembly process. Today I pushed the car outside, cleaned up shop a little putting many parts in our storage room. I brought the car back inside but this time I put the car on our lift. Again, I get anxious and I have to put the car in the air just to get a quick look at the bottom  of the car….I knew before the car arrived that the entire floor pan of this car was going to need to be replaced, but WOW….It needs more than just floor pans.

(look closely at rocker panel skin, you can see all the rust. But there is also spot welds holding a new rocker panel skin onto the old rusty rocker panel underneath it.)

 (In this photo the lower edge of this door sill is completely skim coated with body filler.)

(Here I used a cup brush on an electric grind to quickly remove the body filler that was covering up the outer skin that was only tack welded in place. I then used a cut off tool to grind all of the spot welds and removed the outer skin.)

(They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Believe me this picture still does not tell you the whole story.)

This Porsche has had a lot of work done to it over the past 46 years of its life. Unfortunately, those who have worked on this car in the past did not do this Porsche any favors. In fact I would not call the work they performed to be a repair or mend, all they did was hide or cover up the problem and make the car look shiny from the outside. (before picture)

Day 1 Porsche 911 restoration

When taking on a restoration project for a customer it is extremely difficult to a customer an answer when they ask how much will it cost. I am going to explain and show you why. If you are restoring an automobile please follow along with this blog over the course of the next year, I am going to document the restoration of this 1968 Porsche 911 back to factory original condition. It does not matter the type of vehicle you yourself might be restoring it is the procedures, tips and techniques you will learn that apply to most vehicles.

 I drove up to look at this car for restoration on the 18th and the owner was kind enough to bring it down to Glory Days that same evening.  Thursday morning the first thing I did was roll the cat out side to pressure wash the years of dust from the body.

 
 


 While I was allowing the car to dry, I started going through the Porsche for the first time. Writing down the information on the data tags, chassis number, paint codes, engine casting number, miles on the odometer.

 
Upon first inspection I can tell that there are several areas where the paint is bubbling, it is my personal opinion that one should expect to see rust holes in those areas. I use a plan for the worst kind of approach.  But we will see just how bad it is. 

 

 
 
Here’s a close up of the drivers side quarter panel. Obviously there is a good amount of corrosion under the paint in this location. As I am writing this posting. I have already ground into the paint and body work to inspect how bad the problem is.  

 
Looking at an automobile in this condition I can see how people how it is difficult for people to realize how my work a vehicle is really going to required to restore it back to factory original condition. A lot more than you will ever think.
 
 

What’s under the shiny paint?

     I could not help myself. I had to take a peek and see what was under all the bubbling paint on the left quarter panel of the 911. When you have been restoring classic cars you learn to expect the worst. This way I have taken out some of the surprises of what will come back from the media blaster. and I will have an idea of what to expect.

So what I found was that, many years ago some jackass skim coated a large portion of the left quarter panel with fiberglass mating and body filler. This is not a good repair. This is a great technique for trapping moisture under the so called repair and allowing the vehicle to continue to rust with out your knowledge.

Inspecting our 1968 Porsche 911L

     Giving any customer an accurate estimate of how much money a restoration will cost is almost impossible or in all actuality would take more time than it is worth. For several reasons. First, every vehicle you will work on will bring its own unique set problems or circumstances. Second, for example, you never know what you are going to find under that bright shiny paint job or under the carpet. Third, to perform a professional ground up restoration, an automobile is completely disassembled, every screw, every bolt, washer and nut removed. Taking an entire automobile back to its origins, individual bits and pieces. Each to be refurbished, replace or rebuilt. The entire process could take anywhere between 6 months to a year, or perhaps longer depending both on the condition of the vehicle and the  goals of the customers.

     On Thursday June 19th Glory Days Automotive Restoration started the first stage of the restoration process, Disassembly. Thursday was spent inspecting the condition of our new restoration project. Pressure washing the car, taking notes, hundreds of photographs of before, during, and after the disassembly process. Inventorying parts. It will take four to five days to have this car torn down to a completely bare shell, being extremely diligent to document the entire process.

Please take not of the bubbling paint, good indicator of rust problems under the paint. But, remember I said you never know what is under the shiny paint.
 

Rolling hills zoo fathers day car show.

     Heather and I attended the Rolling Hills fathers day car show and put Glory Days Automotive Restoration flyers in each of the cars Unfortunately attendance was down because of the chance of rain, and a person could not have asked for better weather for a car show. First thing, 8 a.m. Monday morning I get a phone call from a gentleman who found one of my flyers at the car show, and he has a car he would like to have restored. Arrangements are made and Wednesday, I drive up to Chapman Kansas to inspect a 1968 Porsche 911L.

     The owner, Gary and I come to an agreement and Gary is kind enough to deliver the Porsche that very evening. Wednesday June 18th, Glory Days Automotive Restoration takes delivery of its fifth restoration project and to be quit honest I do not think I could be anymore excited.

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